Pair of Chicago podcast hosts spent past 5 years of holding Jones and his Infowars network responsible. Their programThe struggle for knowledge produced more over 700 episodes and uses comedy to “get over crazy lies,” Stelter said. on Reliable sources Sunday.
Hosts Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes traveled to Texas to witness Jones’ trial. first hand. Friesen said the most powerful A moment in the courtroom watched Jesse Lewis’ mom, Scarlett Lewis. give her testimony and speak directly to Jones.
“I think that will remain with almost everyone is there for rest of their lives,” Friesen said.
The co-hosts have been covering Jones since 2017, watching his transformation from seemingly untouchable figure to one it is now in serious legal and financial danger.
“Throughout all this stretch of time, his content itself was essentially empty,” Friesen said. “Watching him from my point of view has become a lot less interesting.”
But despite Jones’ legal troubles, Holmes said the culture he helped spawn has gotten much bigger.
“Conspiracy culture is what is created through the cracks of our regular society, Holmes said.
And although their podcast is dedicated to on when examining Jones and his tactics, Holmes said that the trial was indeed about the victims.
“People would like concentrate on Alex is kind of a pompous character that we can mock and make fun of, but that’s not about him,” Holmes said.
Podcast Format allows presenters go beyond Jones as a character and immerse themselves in mechanisms of what he does and why these conspiracy stories exist.
“Let’s go to him. with understanding that this is a serious topic,” Friesen said. – But also what in to be interesting for there is someone to listen to, we have to make something interesting out of it.”
Friesen listened to countless hours of Jones program and calls it “incredibly boring”. experience.”
” reason that I do it because I can bear this boredom,” Friesen said. in order help others gain insight into the phenomenon of disinformation. “So they could be in a place where they could better understand what Alex does and what he offers.”
Many hope that legal and financial dangerous jones now facing will help limit disinformation and conspiracy culture. But Friesen is not sure that it will be a serious blow.
“Conspiracy Producers and people who attract in varieties of behavior that Alex really ends up getting a little smarter,” Friesen said. – they end up find out where the lines are… of what they can do and what they can avoid with.”
