WASHINGTON (AP) – House Committee to Investigate the January 6 Uprising interviewed about 1000 people. But nine members panel has not yet spoken to two of the most prominent players in in that day events — former President Donald Trump and former Vice President Mike Pence.
In the course of the investigation down and panel plans a series of hearings in June, members of The committee is debating whether call two men whose conflict over Whether to certify Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential election win was in the center of in attack. Trump put pressure on Pence for days, if not weeks, to use his ceremonial role presiding over On January 6, they believe they will try to block or delay Biden’s certification. Pence refused to do so, and the rioters who broke into building called that day for his hanging.
There are reasons call one or both of them. The Committee wants to be as thorough as possible and critics are sure lash out if they don’t even try. But some deputies on in panel claimed they got everything information They need without Trump and Pence.
Almost year in their wide-ranging investigation into the worst attack on Capitol in more than two centuriesThe House Committee polled hundreds of witnesses and received more over 100,000 pages of documentation. Interviews were conducted out of in public eye in little-known federal office buildings and private Zoom sessions.
This was stated by the chairman of the Democratic Party, a member of the House of Representatives from Mississippi Benny Thompson. in early April that the committee was able to confirm much of statements attributed to Trump and Pence without their testimony. He said that at the time there was “no effort on part of committee for call Pence, although there have been discussions since then that this is possible.
Speaking of Pence, Thompson said that panel “At first I thought it would be important” call him, but a lot of things on that day we know – we know in people who tried to make him change his mind about the count and everything of what, so it’s us need?
Lot of in people they’re interviewing, thompson added”are people we did not have on in original list”.
panelincluded of seven Democrats and two Republicans, said the evidence he gathered was enough to tie Trump to the federal crime.
Lot of the evidence released by the committee came from White House aides and staff, including obscure witnesses. like cassidy Hutchinson, former special assistant in Trump White House and Greg Jacob, who served as chief of Pence counsel in Vice President office. panel also has thousands of messages from trump final main of employees, Mark Meadows, and spoke to two of in former presidential Children Ivanka Trump And Donald Trump Jr., who we with them father day of in attack.
Among the hundreds of others, the committee has also interview former White House aide Jared Kushner, Ivanka husband, former connection director Alyssa Farah and several of Pence’s aides, including his boss of staff, Mark Short and his national security adviser Keith Kellogg. Former White House Press Secretaries Kayleigh McEnany and Stephanie Grisham also appeared as former senior policy adviser Stephen Miller.
There are more questions Trump and Pence could answer, including what they talked about this morning. of January 6 when Trump made his final plea for Pence cancel the election when he presided over The Electoral College considers in Congress. Legislators were able to document the majority of End of Trump of in call but not what Pence said in response.
in hours after Trump and Pence’s speech, the vice president issued a statement that he had no power object to counting of selective votes. But the President did not relent and went on publicly pressure Pence at his mass rally in front of White House and then on Twitter even after its supporters broke into the Capitol.
Yet it is unlikely that both former the leaders would have told the committee about the conversation – and it’s not clear if they would cooperate at all.
Although Pence has yet to comment on the committee workTrump would certainly be a hostile bystander. He fought the investigation in court, demonized committee on TV and tried to assert executive privilege over White House papers and any of his conversations with to his assistants, demands that would undoubtedly apply to his morning call with Penny.
In addition, the call former president or vice president to testify in congressional investigation is rare, if not unprecedented, move what could face serious legal hurdles and backfire politically.
On January 6, the Committee only gave a presentation of what he has found for the most part in lawsuits, where excerpts of transcripts were used.
A recent committee filing revealed parts of interview with Hutchinson that took place in February and March of This year. This evidence gave new evidence of involvement of Republican Party legislators in Trump attempts to cancel 2020 election, including White House meeting in which lawyers for the president advised up alternative tablet of Electors Announce Trump winner was not “legally sound”.
Another court document contained testimonies from Jacob, who served as chief of Pence counsel. AT series of emails, Jacob repeatedly told attorney John Eastman, who have worked with Trump that Pence couldn’t intervene in his ceremonial role and stop certification of selective votes. Jacob told Eastman about the legal framework he put forward make just it was “essentially completely made up”.
Meadows lyrics also was frank and detailed how people inside Trump’s orbit pleaded for strongly condemn him attack on Capitol as it unfolded. The statements came from Trump. children members of Congress and even Fox News anchors.
“He must lead Now. He went too far and got out of hand,” Donald Trump Jr texted Meadows as protesters breached the Capitol’s security perimeter.
AP Congressional Correspondent Lisa Mascaro contributed to this report.